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Old April 9th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default When to quit in STT

You start playing a set or a continuous amount of stts . For this example , between 4-8 tables, multitablers dont count in this moment.
How do you realize that today is not a day for stay playing? .
Most answer says: If you are playing your A-game , it doesnt matter the results , in the long run u will win and bla bla bla .

I disagree. When the cards are in the other side of your life , it just impossible. You can stay a bit more just to see if the things change , but you have to quit. You can lose too much amount of money because it will take 3 or 4 days of winnings to recover it. Plus your ROI and ITM will decrease , making you feel below the average player ( thinking you are making mistake , when you are not)


For me there is a simple rule , I play with a 100 buyin BR , my better days are about 10 buyins up so my worst day has to be no more than
18 buyins . I play 6 tabling ( now 4 cause a bad run ) , so I can realize when a 14 buyins downswing came , fired up the last 4 stt and quit.
But there is some more about feeling , there is a time when you feel that every draw played by the other hit , the coins are not 50/50 , Ax vs KT+ always hit KT+ ( you are in the Ax side pushing with 9bb allin PF ) . When I feel that and see it in the tables , I can quit even with only a few buyins down.

Im interesting in how people managed their quitting moves , especially for those who has to pay their rent with the profit of poker.

Is it to much phycological post ?

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Old April 10th, 2008, 03:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: When to quit in STT

Is it to much phycological post ?

Not at all... you hit 2 interesting and inter-related concepts at the same time, bankroll management and poker psychology.

Bankroll management is what allows you to confidently take those small edges which combine to become your overall profit. Downswings will happen to every player who puts in enough volume to have a significant sample size.

My thought is that generating a 'negative' mindset, either at the start of a session or because the cards are not falling well for you is a form of tilt... and one that is almost as dangerous as the better known 'angry tilt'... will try to explain:

- Feeling negative about your chances or risk of being sucked out on leads to more 'passive play', this kind of poker - with smaller bet sizes and checking behind more often, gives more free cards = more suckouts... which leads to more doom and gloom and so even more passive (losing!) behaviour at the tables.

Long reply - but basically agreeing with the original post. Stopping a session before it has really started if you find you are not playing your 'A game' or start to feel negative is a good characteristic!!

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Old April 15th, 2008, 02:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: When to quit in STT

I have tried to bring my gambling education into my poker play. Bankroll management is but a piece of the pie, albeit an important one. The larger concept is DISCIPLINE....it takes staunch discipline to play poker; to know your game inside and out, to have the patience to wait for the proper hands to play, to set your win goals and your loss limits to your comfort level, and live within your bankroll.

I have not yet mastered discipline in my poker game...I still go over my loss limits at times or lose my discipline in other ways, but as with everything in life, it is a learning experience. Live and Learn!
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