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Stud7Rules · May 25th, 2010, 05:10 PM

*****Hit my card on the flop, but flop was suited

Ultimate Bet $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
The Official Hand History

UTG+2: $2.25
MP1: $1.47
MP2: $2.06
CO: $2.05
BTN: $2.37
SB: $0.98
BB: $2.00
Hero (UTG): $2.00
UTG+1: $1.28

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with Q

Q

Hero raises to $0.06, 7 folds, BB raises to $0.28, Hero calls $0.22

Flop: ($0.57) A

Q

7

(2 players)
BB bets $0.38, Hero raises to $1.72 all in, BB folds

I really didn't know what type of hand BB would raise with, he was playing too many hands. After the flop, I figured if he had worse he'd pay me off, and if he didn't have any hearts, he'd fold. I felt good about the shove, but wanted others opinions.

somepokerdude · July 6th, 2010, 06:38 PM

I think I would have called. It seems like he had a decent hand (AK is likely) and then got scared of the flush. I doubt he had AA, and unless he did, you are getting good money on the call.

Copernicus · July 7th, 2010, 11:38 PM

Definitely the right time to shove. If he's not drawing (which is most of the time) and a scare card comes on the turn your action is totally dead, if he is drawing and the turn misses he could fold but he would call the flop.

HuskyBlue · July 8th, 2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somepokerdude

I think I would have called. It seems like he had a decent hand (AK is likely) and then got scared of the flush. I doubt he had AA, and unless he did, you are getting good money on the call.

AA? Are you serious? You think it's remotely possible he folded top set b/c he was scared off by the flush? It's not possible. Additionally...
No way he lays down AK here. Players at these levels will NEVER lay down TP/TK in that spot. In fact, I would be shocked if he mucked any Ace.

I hate his play from the start. Given a TAG UTG open on a full table, his raise outta the BB should only be for value. Since he mucked the flop, i highly suspect it was w/ garbage. Sure he could have had KK, but I'd still expect him to felt w/ that hand.

As for your play Stud, its an automatic shove on the flop. I wouldn't mind 4betting preflop either.

Negativeking · July 20th, 2010, 02:53 PM

I don't like the bet size at all preflop. You are utg with an amazing hand. You don't want to play this 4 way. I would raise 5x here and with the blind reraising I am most likely 4betting. The scary part about this is that he 3 bet you pretty big for these stakes, almost 5x. On the flop I am just pushing outright just as you did. Your stack demands it.

You said that he was playing too many hands. Was he 3 betting alot? That would help alot in this situation. If he is 3 betting alot I will push this preflop vs a total loose cannon.

Husky: He said that he doubted that the villain had AA :P

Negativeking

mb2k · July 26th, 2010, 04:01 PM

Never ever folding a big set on the flop especially in a 3bet pot even if it is monotone. ideally at these stakes I would 4bet all in pre anyway.

he probably pays you off here with AJ AQ AK 77 KQ and assuming he only has one heart, any flushdraw.

if he DID flop a flush, you outdraw him to a full house 30% of the time anyway.

mb2k · July 26th, 2010, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somepokerdude

I think I would have called. It seems like he had a decent hand (AK is likely) and then got scared of the flush. I doubt he had AA, and unless he did, you are getting good money on the call.

What call? Hero went all in anyway.

If you mean you would *just* call the flop bet..what are you going to do when a fourth heart hits on the turn?

Negativeking · July 26th, 2010, 07:30 PM

Gotta agree with mb here, flat calling on the flop is pretty bad. If he has the flush, which is unlikely, you have outs. If he has AK with a heart, you are winning 65% of the time if I remember right. Make him pay for his draw up front, in the long run you will win money with that play.

If this were a tourney, then there would be certain circumstances where I would fold this. Very rare circumstances.

Negativeking

bellevuelimo · June 6th, 2011, 12:18 AM

There is also still a chance that I'm going to hit my card on the turn or river, if I can get there for free. A bet on the flop – particularly from position.

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Volchik · August 14th, 2011, 11:34 PM

I think you have made right decision. There was a chance of opp call with ace and without hearts.

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