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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This hand is so bad it's not even funny, where is the biggest mistake and what do you do differently

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($74.91)
UTG+1 ($16.78)
CO ($59.90)
BTN ($52.74)
SB ($67.75)
Hero ($50.00)
Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, CO raises to $2.50, BTN calls $2.50, SB calls $2.25, Hero calls $2
Flop: ($10, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $3.50, 1 fold, SB folds, Hero calls $3.50
Turn: ($17, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50
River: ($34, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $35.50, CO says "j q or the flush", 1 fold
Final Pot: $69.50
Hero wins $67.30 ( won +$17.30 )
CO lost -$14.50
BTN lost -$2.50
SB lost -$2.50

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Old August 18th, 2008, 06:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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personally I fold pre-flop.

I fold the turn as played but I am curious to see what others do here.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 01:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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From the fish standpoint, I would play the hand pre-flop from the BB since the table is 6-handed and his raising range should be widened a bit at the CO. You're priced right to play after the flop, but villian prices you out at the turn. I would put him on a PP of 99+, with Aces or Kings less likely since his raise was weak after the flop. I would agree with PoWdA and fold at the turn. Nice that you flushed him though...
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Old August 20th, 2008, 05:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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cheers for comments. as mentioned a catalogue of errors in this hand.
pre flop 2 into an 8 pot I'm calling this all the time I think. I would always fold A5o and never get excited on a Axx flop.

Thoughts on CR the flop now that it's HU. The CO is fairly loose agg, and has 100% FCB, even with mult opponents.

As played, totally agree with turn fold, no chasing odds and hand now transparent so not going to get any further value if I do hit.

river - again just bad. I knew my hand was face up after weak flop.turn play.

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Old August 20th, 2008, 07:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I def call pre-flop, unless you can't get away from an Axx flop.

I c-r the flop, willing to get it all in there.

As played, fold the turn. No implied odds, and certainly not getting the pot odds to call.

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Old August 21st, 2008, 10:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: constructive destruction

I think I'm with Never Race on this hand. You can make an argument for folding pre-flop, but I would probably play this hand also as long as you can get away from the hand if you flop top pair.

I like to either bet the size of the pot on the flop, or make a substantial check raise(leaning more towards the check raise. Can't see a ver good reason for folding on the flop.

The river is a really bad card to make the flush with, because of the one card straight potential. You definitely have to bet a smaller amount, even something as small as $10, afterall 10 is beter than 0 .

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