pot flop, take the free river.


On the river bet if he checks, about half pot. He is not going to try to trap the river when you hit the brakes on the turn. Bet for value but the fact that you are poting this makes me think that he has a monster and he is going to bet the river.

check the turn!


edit: The above was posted before the river post was made (posted at the same time). The following is the river.


river - fistpump push?

river - fistpump raise to 630?

river - fistpump raise to 1000?


I think any option works here but I like options 1 and 3 the best.

River Blank and I would Fold to anything Over 200$

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Kickboyswoop

He posted the river but it depends on the blank. I might fold to an ace but I really don't know what else I fold too.

When was the last time an ace was a blank card? Blank=3,4,5,6,

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No I am saying the ace is just about the only card I fear. I woudn't want to see a 10 either. I am not going anywhere unless it is one of these 2 cards, then I reconsider.

The more I look at it the more I thinking our opponent has KJ.

If so, nice 3 outer.

Making the boat is a nice problem to have. I'd raise to 2.5x the size of his bet. I would not be surprised if he folds but some guys just can't fold a hand better than trips.

I like to raise on the button with this hand and because of the lower buyin type of players and the propensity for limpers to call, slightly overbet what you would consider a normal raise.



I like raising preflop for several reasons:

• You probably have the best hand, and it's never a bad thing to get chips in the pot with the best hand.
• You may win the pot uncontested by raising.
• You have position, position in holdem is golden.
• You have bluffing rights . It's unlikely any of the limpers have a good ace in their hand and probably don't even have a raggedy ace, so the preflop raise gives you bluffing rights when the ace hits, and other junky low uncoordinated flops

In this spot I would just about always bet the pot. I want to define my hand and get rid of the draws, like you mention there are likely a lot of cards that can hurt your hand. I'd be happy to take the pot right here, which is also another good reason to raise preflop so when you hit this type of flop that is somewhat dangerous but you most likely have the best hand, you will still win some chips, instead of the minimum.

Pretty standard check behind, your either way ahead or way behind, but be prepared to call most river bets in my opinion because players love to bluff the river in this situation also

Like sjclar mentioned, I would raise 2.5 times his river bet, those min raises always look super suspicious to me, and an all in move loses some of it's value unless the player also filled up, a lot of players (even some bad ones) would fold three jacks on the river here to an all in bet meaning you miss the value of getting paid off with your hand.

I would just about always bet 1/2 the pot for value here. It would be an incredibly rare player that checked twice with a hand better than yours.


Jason

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I'm Not Lucky, I Have Good Karma !

Good discussion - Here is the final piece:

Grabovsky: raises 360 to 570
LDO2007: folds

Wanted to give him the opportunity to pay me off with trip JJJ / maybe QQQ or a smaller house.

Can only imagine a straight draw all along - maybe as bad as a gutshot (really, impossible to imagine how bad players in these early steps are - no need to give them credit for too much thinking!)

Back to the pre-flop: in a cash game or an MTT I like the raise more pre-flop, in a SNG (especially one paying 2 spots) I prefer to keep the pot smaller at the early blind levels and see what develops... primary concern is to keep some chips for the short-stacked end-game where opponents will be making huge errors.

Cheers, Mark

PS: Lets see some more hands on this board!

My personal SNG Strategy is to double up early and try to be patient from there. ONce the blinds get worth something i tend to pick up the pace.

That is why I favor raising preflop.

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Kickboyswoop

I generally follow the same line of thinking. In the early rounds of a SNG I usually follow the line you presented, starting with the flat call preflop. Later on when the blinds are higher I would follow a strategy closer to what Jason described above.