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Old June 17th, 2009, 02:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How important is patience?

I'm a patient player-sometimes too patient. Of course, every one in a while, I'll play LAG (loose - aggressive), but I'm overall pretty tight. I've found that being patient usually pays off, but if you're playing a turbo or super turbo tourney, being too patient can be a downfall since the blinds increase so quickly. Higher limit ring tables-where blinds don't continually increase-can be a place to be patient, but you can lose money through blinds if you wait too long.

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Old June 17th, 2009, 08:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You can play loose and still be patient at the same time. Being patient in poker means having the discipline to wait for a good opportunity. Sometimes good opportunities will present themselves more frequently when there are especially bad or weak tight players at your table.

In the later stages of a tournament or SNG your stack size and hand strength play an important role in whether you should raise or fold. It shouldn't have anything to do with patience if you realize what ranges you should be folding/raising in different positions and different M values.

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Old June 18th, 2009, 01:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Patience is important obviously, I tend to think "emotional control" is even more important though. Everyone gets tilted, only the great players can shake it off (and the greatest players know when they can't shake it off).
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Old June 18th, 2009, 05:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Disipline goes hand in hand as well. These are things that if you learn how to control, can take your game to the next level. These are things I never heard about til I got in to forums.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 09:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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My motto: "Be Patient ... or become a patient."

If you get a cold run of cards, there is nothing you can really do, but be aware that after you have folded ten times in a row, ... your raise with any two cards is going to look dangerous from the point of view of any observant player.


A good exercise for you to do outside of playing is to look at the schedule of limit changes for the tournament you are playing in. You will find that a little preparation goes a long way, especially in important tournaments. Here are a few things you want to set:
  • What your stack should be at each level.
  • How many hands will be dealt, on average, in each level.
  • How many times per cycle you should be raising to bring your stack up.
  • How much you will be raising.
  • Be determined to identify the weakest player at the table and the second weakest player as well.
  • If you win a very big pot, how will you slow down to conserve your precious chips.
  • Be aware when the level is about to go up, so you can raise cheaply while the limits are lower.
  • When antes start, you will need to increase your stack if it is not already ahead of the average.
  • Decide before the tournament what your attitude to coinflips will be (eg) If you raise with AK, and someone reraises you.
  • In keeping with Game Theory (read the chapter again in Theory of Poker by Sklansky if you do not know what I am saying here) every once in a while you should raise with some sort of random hand like 86s or T7 (Negreanu fan ). If you pick up the blinds, great. If someone reraises you, easy release. If you hit the flop hard, there is a big pot for you.
  • Think about your blind on blind strategy.
These are just ideas but you will find that although patience has its place, preparation for a tournament yields a lot of peace of mind since you have a gameplan to follow.

For a very big tournament I qualified for two years ago, I did the above preparation (alas not all the items above) and it really helped in the actual event, since you always knew where you were and what had to happen.

Hope this helps.
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  • Think about your blind on blind strategy.
This is a huge factor and a major difference between successful live and online play long term, in my opinion at least.
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