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HuskyBlue · June 15th, 2009, 02:15 PM

I posted the following hand on another forum and got some really great and VARIED feedback. Let's see what PSF thinks. Try to refrain from regurgitating the same stuff as other posts. If you agree, fine, but offer some alternative line of thought or perhaps a if/then sequence.

$24 Rebuy
Your image: TAG
V Image: Aggressive
Rebuy period just closed
You have

You flop a strong draw:

Villian leads 1050 into 1100

I'll post a summary of the options the other forum suggested in a little while and we can discuss the pros/cons of each if PSF doesn't come up w/ them all.

JediMethod · June 15th, 2009, 03:26 PM

What is the action preflop?

HuskyBlue · June 15th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Villain opens for 3x, you call. All else fold.

fourKingshit · June 16th, 2009, 04:23 AM

stack sizes?

Zoe · June 16th, 2009, 05:59 AM

I'm cool with the preflop call in position. I think I might be tempted to 3-Bet if I were Out of position, because I'm not really thrilled with playing AQs out of position. so preflop is fine imo.

On the flop, I think I'm cool with either raising or calling, but I'm leaning heavily towards calling for two reasons, 1. The pot is still not so large that we're pot committed but if we raise, we get very close to committing ourselves on any river and if the our flush doesn't get there we don't want to turn a good hand into a bluff catcher. 2. You probably have the best hand and raising might chase away too much of villain's C-Betting range.

HuskyBlue · June 16th, 2009, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fourKingshit

stack sizes?

Can you see the graphic? I've uploaded a picture w/ stack sizes, position etc details. Perhaps use another browser if you can't see it.

Also, if you click on the image itself, it will zoom in and you can see the figures in greater detail.

Zoe · June 16th, 2009, 06:35 AM

I just took another look at this and noticed that the villain bet almost PSB (Pot Sized Bet) which usually means he's either strong but vulnerable (to the obvious draws), or completely missed the flop with something like AK or something. So I like still like calling. If he's strong he's likely to fire again on the turn and if you happen to hit your draw you'll get his stack & if he's weak he's likely to give up and you get a free river card (or depending on reads, you can try to steal it on the turn).

JediMethod · June 16th, 2009, 06:37 AM

I like 3betting this pre for value as long as we think that villain will flat with worse hands. As played, I like a raise here and depending on how laggy villain is I might be inclined to play for stacks on the flop.

For those who prefer a call on the flop u need to think about what you're going to do on an A or Q turn. If ur going to assume that ur hand is likely best when u make top pair then u have assume u have 15 outs on the flop so raise that shit up!

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Zoe · June 16th, 2009, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediMethod

I like 3betting this pre for value as long as we think that villain will flat with worse hands. As played, I like a raise here and depending on how laggy villain is I might be inclined to play for stacks on the flop.

For those who prefer a call on the flop u need to think about what you're going to do on an A or Q turn. If ur going to assume that ur hand is likely best when u make top pair then u have assume u have 15 outs on the flop so raise that shit up!

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The only problem I see about 3-Betting this preflop is the OP didn't say anything about the villain except "aggressive" (I'd prefer some real stats). How does he play? So what will you do if he 4-Bets you? Fold? and if not, what hands do you beat against his 4-Betting range?

JediMethod · June 16th, 2009, 09:21 AM

Agree with u on 3betting preflop which is why I said if he will flat with worse hands. If u think he's capable of 4bet bluffing then I'd rather flat. Most of the time we're going to be taking this down pre though and we'll flop well a decent amount of the time that we get called as well.

On the flop flatting and raising are both read dependant and there just isn't enough info on villain. If he normally makes psb cbets then I'd be more inclined to raise and will flat if he usually makes 1/2 to 3/4 psb.

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