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Old May 7th, 2008, 04:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: WSOP Step #1 Hand... With Twists

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Originally Posted by SNGPlanet Mark View Post
So, do you raise KQs here or flat call?? What are the reasons behind your choice - pros / cons etc??
I like to raise on the button with this hand and because of the lower buyin type of players and the propensity for limpers to call, slightly overbet what you would consider a normal raise.



I like raising preflop for several reasons:
  • You probably have the best hand, and it's never a bad thing to get chips in the pot with the best hand.
  • You may win the pot uncontested by raising.
  • You have position, position in holdem is golden.
  • You have bluffing rights . It's unlikely any of the limpers have a good ace in their hand and probably don't even have a raggedy ace, so the preflop raise gives you bluffing rights when the ace hits, and other junky low uncoordinated flops
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So the flop gives me a vulnerable 2 pair - my opponents are terrible and the guy to my immediate left bets 60 chips into a pot of 150.... what is your move here??
In this spot I would just about always bet the pot. I want to define my hand and get rid of the draws, like you mention there are likely a lot of cards that can hurt your hand. I'd be happy to take the pot right here, which is also another good reason to raise preflop so when you hit this type of flop that is somewhat dangerous but you most likely have the best hand, you will still win some chips, instead of the minimum.

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*** TURN *** [Js Qd Kh] [Jc]
LDO2007: checks

He checks... your thoughts on my logic for raising + what to do next??
Pretty standard check behind, your either way ahead or way behind, but be prepared to call most river bets in my opinion because players love to bluff the river in this situation also

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*** RIVER *** [Js Qd Kh Jc] [Qc]
LDO2007: bets 210

I fill up and my opponent bets around half the pot... I'd like to extract some value those times my opponent has a J or Q I am beating. So, how much to bet??
Like sjclar mentioned, I would raise 2.5 times his river bet, those min raises always look super suspicious to me, and an all in move loses some of it's value unless the player also filled up, a lot of players (even some bad ones) would fold three jacks on the river here to an all in bet meaning you miss the value of getting paid off with your hand.

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Originally Posted by SNGPlanet Mark View Post
As a separate question, what if the river had been a blank - a small card - and my opponent had checked to me - bet for value here or check behind for a showdown? how does the fact that this is a step SNG rather than a cash game affect your answer?
I would just about always bet 1/2 the pot for value here. It would be an incredibly rare player that checked twice with a hand better than yours.


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